Step 1 turn the ignition on engine off and, using either a voltmeter or a test light, test for battery voltage available at the positive. Read from read to oem resistance cdi resistance dva. The correction for this issue becomes the replacement of the failed component. Interpurge the 30sec period between trials for ignition, when both the gas valve and igniter source turn off and the inducer is on, allowing unburned gas to escape before the next trial. Normally i just put my multimeter pins into the socket that comes out from under the flywheel. Check for broken or bare wires on the unit, stator and trigger. The two greycolored ignition modules are shown in this photo. To keep our employees and customers safe during the covid19 outbreak, weve taken proactive steps to follow the health and safety recommendations from the cdc while also delivering the excellent support and services our customers have come to expect from inductive automation. All cdi ignition parts meet or exceed oem specs and come with up to 2 years of warranty coverage. Save for offline viewing click part numbers to order. Troubleshooting guide by cdi for outboard motors electrical problems javascript is disabled on your browser. Issuu cdi electronics practical outboard ignition troubleshooting by cdi electronics. The primary winding on the outside and the longer secondary winding on the inside.
Cdi electronics installation and troubleshooting guide. The leader in outboard replacement iginiton parts here are cdi s troubleshooting pages for most ignition systems. There are 6 major components that work together to produce spark, if any of these is defective, spark will be lost. Clark beard, cdi electronics senior technical service specialist, walks us through how to diagnose a cylinder misfire. Cdi electronics 111 commerce circle madison, al 35758 fax 2567725701. The complaint is the engine cranks normally, but does not start. Common ignition module failure cause and correction. This area is the most troublesome of all systems, and the engineers have had a field day with it. A capacitor discharge ignition works by passing an electrical current over a capacitor. The procedures for dsi flame rectification are pretty much the same for all manufacturers.
Cdi electronics has been the leader in outboard marine ignition technology since 1983, and their products are marketed under the name of quick strike ignitions. Cdi electronics installation and troubleshooting guide cdi pin. Fix any problems found here, before proceeding with testing troubleshooting. It provides reference and concept information along with stepbystep instructions on how to do just about everything in ignition. Use of electronic test equipment and ignition troubleshooting guide. This product is designed to be installed by a professional marine mechanic. Mercury outboard electronic ignition parts and kits to fit most older mercury outboard motors are found on this page. How capacitor discharge ignition cdi system works and. Understanding outboard motor ignition components hubpages. Various hearth electronic systems will be discussed as well as common methods of diagnosing most frequently encountered electronic ignition problems.
A highenergy capacitor discharge ignition system based on an article by silicon chip septermber 199 7 this completely new capacitor discharge ignition system has been designed from the ground up to provide a high energy multiple spark discharge to cope with engines which have very high rpm rates. Buy cdi electronics 962 cdi practical outboard ignition troubleshooting guide. Used to load the output of ignition modules when testing ignition coils. Use this application guide to find the aftermarket ignition part to repair your outboard motor. Ignition is a single install, runs from a single location, is server based, and is sold by the server not by the client. Ignition coil changes battery voltage to high ignition voltage 30,000 volts andgreater. No spark the ignition system is fairly easy to troubleshoot in the case of malfunction. Route the two back rope start housing bolts through the new ignition coil brackets, then through. Jan 21, 2003 this article deals with flame rectification as it applies to direct spark ignition dsi modules. They are manufactured by a few different companies fenwal, honeywell, robertshaw, and white rodgers, to mention a few. View and download cdi 1734560 installation and troubleshooting manual online. Online catalog for cdi electronics marine engine ignition products and outboard troubleshooting guide.
What we will be doing here is troubleshooting these ignition parts. Includes dva explained, recommended shop tools, testing with minimal equipment, voltage drop measurement, troubleshooting battery charging issues and many more. Cdi electronics outboard ignition parts seiler marine. I have swapped coils and confirmed the problem is not the coil. The leader in marine electronic ignition technology for outboard motor. Magnetos were big and expensive and lost out to cheaper battery ignition,but held their own in motorcycles due to good high speed performance,they were standard in the smaller 2 strokes as flywheel magnetosgenerators until cdi systems became competitive with the advent of solid state electronics. Oct 11, 2001 continuous retry a 90sec trial for ignition with a 5min shutoff before retry. Boatersland marine enginemechanical ignition parts ignition tools and testers cdi electronics 5119904 cdi diagnostic tool kit. Use of electronic test equipment and ignition troubleshooting guide the electronic data in this section has been largely supplied by cdi electronics, division of rapair, inc. Using the cdi meter with the 5119773 peak reading adapter, or cd77 and 5119770 piercing probes, dva check stator voltage to each pack. For more than 30 years, cdi electronics has led the marine industry in innovative ignition components and unmatched service and support. Occurs only if ignition was not successful during the previous trial.
Electronic ignition overview this collapse by absorbing the initial shock current of the primary winding. Trying to diagnose an engine that runs ok in the back yard, but has ignition problems at higher rpms. See our other pages for more mercury, johnson and evinrude outboard motor parts. Troubleshooting ignition problems on a mercury outboard. Cdi electronics practical outboard ignition troubleshooting gerry comment. You should have a reading of at least 85 v or more. Troubleshooting guide cdi electronics free download as pdf file. Diagnosing an outboard engine ignition issue how do i. This effort is led by our technical support team who have developed resources to help you quickly and accurately diagnose outboard ignition problems. Here you will find switch boxes, triggers, and stators. Ignition module failure is no joke because it often leaves you stranded. The cause of an ignition control module failure is often associated with age and damage from heat buildup. Reset ignition timing according to the service manual. It helps shape the coil collapse to produce the high power secondary collapse and slows the collapse of the coil just long enough for the points to get far enough apart so the coil back emf output wont arc across the points.
Works with most digital multimeters capable of reading millivolts. Understanding electronic test equipment fishing tackle the information contained in this troubleshooting guide has been compiled from various however, cdi electronics cannot assume responsibility for either the data accuracy or the consequences of the datas application. November 11, 2003 after extremely high demand for enrollment in the marine industrys only ignition school, cdi electronics announces it may add a third 40hour training session for technicians in march 2004. Frequently asked questions about boat ignition systems. Electronic ignition overview automotive coil also called an inductor an iron core is wrapped with 2 long coils of wire.
This product is designed for installation by a professional marine mechanic. Shop for your cdi electronics 5119904 cdi diagnostic tool kit at. Mastertech marine outboard motor basic troubleshooting. Our force outboard ignition parts are at the lowest prices and same day shipping. Im reading the troubleshooting guide from cdi electronics see link below. Unlike the standard ignition system consisting of just a coil circuit, the system functions independent from the charging system completely. The first successful cdi electronics ignition school was held at the companys madison, alabama manufacturing facility in late october. Cdi electronics has been the leader in outboard marine ignition technology since 1983, and their products are marketed under the name. It uses current webbased technology and allows you to bring the it department and the plant floor closer than.
The only consistency is, they all have trouble spots. Ignition is not like any other hmi scada system youve seen before. Cdi replacement part 962 practical troubleshooting guide warning. At first glance, it seems confusing but with a little knowledge it can be easily understood making a repair a little easier. Ignition coils free delivery possible on eligible purchases. The electronic data in this section has been largely supplied by cdi electronics, division of rapair, inc. Cdi ignition troubleshooting guide they are using some sort of aggravating pageturning flash application for the guide. To view this site, you must enable javascript or upgrade to a javascriptcapable browser. Omc, johnson, evinrude, outboard motor troubleshooting section. Cdi electronics has been the leader in outboard marine ignition technology since 1983, and their products are marketed under the name ofquick strike. Mercury produces an extensive line of outboard motors. Cdi electronics 962 cdi practical outboard ignition. This section of the ignition user manual shows all of the documentation for ignition in a format that is listed by feature or section of the platform. Cdi electronics catalog outboard motors, boat parts.
This product may expose you to chemicals, which are known to the state of california to cause cancer, birth defects andor other reproductive harm. Cdi electronics practical troubleshooting guide 962. History i just replaced the engine mounted ignition switch key would not work on previous switch. The discounting comes in when the motor is at a low, low idle. Cdi electronics installation and troubleshooting guide cdi pn. Adapter has voltage, temperature, capacitance, ohms and dva measurement capability. Its major components include two ignition modules, the ignition switch, the kill switch, a timing pickup coil assembly located at the rear of the crankshaft, and two ignition coilsplug wiresspark plugs. Electronic cdi box repair 75% success rate youtube. You are invited to join our public boat repair forum to seek assistance from other members. Outboard electronic ignition troubleshooting mastertech. Like all mechanical equipment, mercury motors can exhibit issues, ignition problems being some of the most worrisome. Help with troubleshooting stators, switch boxes, power packs, timer bases, triggers, coils and other ignition components. Troubleshooting electronic ignition bob wise cvc coaching this session is designed to provide a broad approach to troubleshooting electronic ignition systems.
With the old battery, engine turned over a few times but no spark or fuel not sure yet, then. Cdi electronics has been the leader in outboard marine ignition technology since 1983, and their products are marketed under the name of quick strike. Cdi electronics troubleshooting guide 6th edition by cdi. The left and right side ignition systems are almost completely independent. A failing ignition control module can be a real headache at times. First, the parts diagram for this motor shows a switch box. Qd16 nova2 ignition modules will it work yeah it will work. Troubleshooting visually inspect the stator for cracks or varnish leakage. Cdi ignition systems,trouble shooting,how do they work.
Cdi electronics wants to help you get your customers back on the water quickly and efficiently. Seiler marine is an authorized dealer for cdi electronics and rapair outboard ignition parts. It can produce a wide range of engine performance problems, including preventing the engine from starting or stalling the engine as you speed down the road, just to let you resume your driving a few minutes later, as if nothing had happened. Ignition coils johnson evinrude cdi electronics catalog. Electronic ignition troubleshooting procedure when troubleshooting any electronic ignition system for no spark, follow these steps to help pinpoint the exact cause of the problem. That is where the magneto ignition is thought to be dominant, but the 2 aomci members that have tried the modules say that the motor ran fine at idle. Mercury marine is an international motor boat company based in lake forest, illinois, providing motors for private, commercial and government craft. Shop force outboard ignition parts at wholesale marine. Unbolt and remove the old cd module and ignition coil. Outboard electronic ignition troubleshooting mastertech marine. I will continue with the cdi unit tests using rodbolts info until i can do onwater testing with the cdi electronics website instructions. But some time its just burns out and needs to be replaced.
Outboard ignition troubleshooting page 1 special tools. This system is not compatible with the factory ignition power pack and timer base. The issuu cdi electronics practical outboard ignition troubleshooting by cdi electronics, refers to a cdm. Install the new cdi module using the bolts supplied with the unit.
Aug 03, 2011 outboard ignition systems are different than most. You may also visit the boat motor manuals section of our site to obtain a service manual. Hello, like the title says im having ignition problems with my mercury 1997 25hp, no spark one one cylinder. A cdi ignition starts by generating a charge and storing it up before sending it out to the spark plug in order to ignite the engine. Check the dva on the blackwhite wires from the cdi unit while connected to the ignition coils. Troubleshooting guide that covers chryslerforce, johnsonevinrude, mariner, mercury, mercuryforce, tohatsunissan, and yamaha 2stroke with some 4stroke. Ask the experts on our yamaha outboard forum for repair issues, diagnosing problems, links to diagrams, suggestions on buying parts and more. January20, 2010 10 leecautomotive systems ignition distributor distributes ignition voltage to the spark plug. Cdi electronics 5119904 cdi diagnostic tool kit cdi 511.
Please check out the links below to see the tools and test equipment clark. Yamaha dva peak reading voltage and resistance chart. Jun 26, 2017 cdi electronics supports the 2017 national skillsusa competition jun 28, 2016 cdi electronics announces new lower pricing for ficht emm repairs may 2, 2016 how to video. Practical outboard ignition troubleshooting guide cdi electronics 8th edition detailed reference manual that includes troubleshooting tips, reference data for troubleshooting outboard.